Interview with Ayat
January 2009 by Dave Schalek

Briefly describe the history of Ayat, and the origin of the band’s name. How did Ayat form and under what circumstances?
Sadogoat and I started playing together in the late 90’s, we created Ayat in 2001 so we can do our own thing since musical divergences were starting to appear in our previous efforts with other people. I came up with the name Ayat because Islam, although being the dominant faith that it is with more than a billion adherent, was a topic that was never explored in Black Metal. It was as if Christianity was that much worse and that the Muslim countries are paradises on earth and there was actually nothing to complain about.
There IS a lot to complain about. And the term Ayat with its story telling connotations left us space to explore other topics as well not related to the original religious meaning. By creating Ayat we alienated ourselves completely from the rest of the Lebanese scene and condemned ourselves to be boycotted for a while and opposed by nearly everyone. Actually, by everyone. Even our friends voiced their support for us theoretically but apologized in advance for not being there if anything serious actually happens. In any case, we’re big time favorites now. Which is very telling. We had to be worshiped abroad to be given the benefit of doubt at home.

How did a band from Lebanon, a country not known for metal, end up on Moribund Cult’s roster?
Because we’re that good.

How does the tumultuous recent history of Lebanon factor into Ayat’s thematic and lyrical elements, if at all?
Of course it does. But the “how” takes too long to explain. We (Arabs and the West) are different, the general shape in which are countries are is different, when you get down to details, we even eat our soup differently, and for a specific reason. So when it comes to something as personal and self-consuming as writing music, we are bound to be effected by our environment and our history.

Do you have to deal with any forms of censorship in Lebanon? If so, do you have to rehearse and/or record in secret?
We face absolutely no form of censorship because we officially don’t exist for the Lebanese government. And we intend to keep it this way for as long as possible. I smuggled a few copies that I gave to very close friends and that will be the end of our sales here in Lebanon.
We don’t rehearse, we just write music, because Sadogoat and I live thousands of miles apart.
Recording in secret? Do Western bands record in public? We just record man.

Briefly describe the recording process for “Six Years of Dormant Hatred”.
Painful and tedious...And occasionally hilarious. I always laugh when I get something recorded right, a sample in its right place, a certain scream that rips, a silence then a killer riff, those good parts always make me laugh.
So it was one year (yes it took us even more than a year to get everything down on listenable format) of utter shit intermitted by moments of pure authentic mischievous laughter.

Are you satisfied with the reaction to “Six Years of Dormant Hatred”? Do you plan to tour to support the album?
I’m very satisfied. We’re getting tens and zeros everywhere. I don’t like whatever is in between. People are either pissing on the CD or building a shrine for it.
As for touring, I don’t think it is a possibility before the second full length.

Explain the meaning of the term “Dajjal”.

In Islam, Al Dajjal is the false prophet, something like your anti-Christ. The meaning of the term can be translated rather precisely with the term “Hypocrite”. It is someone who has all the characteristics of a real prophet but works for a different boss.

Did the 2006 war between Hezbollah and Israel have an impact upon Ayat’s music?
It stunned it to total inaction. It can probably affect the next release but whatever happened during these past six years only delayed an album that was already done. One cannot make Black Metal IN times of war. One makes it after the rubble settles.

Does the current conflict between Hamas and Israel influence the band’s current direction, or immediate plans?
The current conflict between Hamas and Israel cannot influence the direction or the immediate plans of Ayat in any way. How do you want it to influence us? Call our next album “Eyeless in Gaza, but for real this time”? Or do you want me to tell you we’re dropping our instruments and we’re joining Hamas on their next boot camp? You want to know my opinion and you’re phrasing it into something relatively connected to Ayat. I’m fine with that. I’ll tell you my opinion.
I think this war is total crap. It’s not even a war. Israelis should kill some of their soldiers on the way back to even the odds because the number of casualties is so disproportionate that it can’t be called a war anymore. But who can mess with Israel? Bless them. They’re doing great. Holding the entire world in a headlock of guilt. One has to at least acknowledge the astounding ingenuity.
What of Arabs? We have been degraded to the rank of a nation that can only be allowed to talk at UN meetings once we’re leaning to a cane and we’re bleeding from both ears. And who speaks in our name in these dire times when we desperately need a voice? On a fuckin’ goat somewhere, Islam Osama! And the lost boy wonder of Saddam as well. A fuckin’ happy day this is.
Meanwhile, Israel remains the only country in the world exempt from accountability. And the death toll is rising and most of them are children. But who cares about Arab children anyway? They’re not REAL children. They’re just terrorists in the making. I put my TV in the attic. This is all so sickening. And it’s quite emblematic of the shape of the world. The Arab world should be put to sleep with an overdose of Ketamin to end its misery. We are so embarrassing one might wonder if we don’t deserve all of this. As for the West, in the long run, this will mean absolutely nothing. You are already accountable for countless slaughters, and you “technically” have no hand in this one.

You describe yourselves as “Anti- Islamic” black metal. Please give us a more complete description of your intentions with this statement.
We never described ourselves as Anti-Islamic Black Metal. We are against the religious establishment in all its forms and Islam is just one form of it.

Given that most of our readers are in the West, can you give us your impressions regarding black metal in the Islamic world? Is the art form taking hold; that is, is there any sort of “scene” appearing? What are the thematic elements present in black metal in that part of the world, to your knowledge?
You’re not missing out on anything. Yet, I URGE you to buy Damaar’s album “Triumph Through Spears of Sacrilege”. The best War Metal you have ever heard in your entire life.

Lastly, do you feel the need to emigrate from Lebanon to carry Ayat forward?
Not only Ayat. To carry anything forward one has to leave this fucked up place every once in a while because the market is elsewhere. But I am staying here on the long run. I won’t emigrate to wash your fuckin’ dishes or sell you Happy Burgers and be called “one hell of a guy” by left wing diners.
I’m staying right here making what I do best unless I get an opportunity shining with awesomeness elsewhere. War doesn’t bother me one bit. I am content here. I have enough money to get by and getting laid regularly.
I’ll only go abroad to visit and take exotic pictures of you to bring home.

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**Interviewer’s Note: The “anti-Islamic” term is described in the entry for Ayat at Encyclopaedia Metallum (other reviews of the album have mentioned this description). Ayat’s official website does not acknowledge, or endorse, this term. The entry also mentions “Dajjal” as a lyrical theme.