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Interview with Donald Tardy of Obituary
July 5th 2007 by James Young'

 

Obituary are a band which have carved, cut and chopped a legacy for themselves in the history of death metal. With a new album out next month entitled ‘Xecutioner‘s Return’, it was my honour to speak to drummer Donald Tardy on a rare sunny morning on the day of the Camden Underworld show to discuss all things brutal and old-school, as well as the current state of the band and metal as we know it.

Hi, thanks for taking the time to speak for Live4Metal. How long have you been stationed in London so far?

We got here on Monday so we’ve been here for about three days now I guess.

So you’ve been enjoying the weather?
Yea actually it hasn’t been too bad; it’s been on and off. We saw some sun, but of course we saw rain.

Tonight’s show is a bit smaller than the usual venues you play in London. Is there a reason for this?
This was the record label setting up this show for us, so I don’t know the reason they would have such a small venue but that was their decision and that’s cool with us. We really do like small venues where everyone’s crammed in there and you’re face to face with the kids. I think for the people that makes a cool show.

The last show you played in London was making up for a last minute cancellation in January 2006. What happened there?
Our ex-management group that we used to use was supposed to have work permits waiting for us, and these permits weren’t ready in time so we were not allowed to come into London.

Do you enjoy playing for an English audience and how do they compare to those in the States?
I like them. They’re violent, very vocal and they really appreciate metal music. They really respect Obituary and what we’ve done in the past, and when we come here the godfathers of metal make us feel like we are somewhat part of that.

The supports for tonight have been announced as the legendary Onslaught. Was this a decision of Obituary, perhaps showing some influence, or was it the label?
It was a little bit of both, because the label brought them to us and we were more than excited to have them be a part of this show, because as you say they have a great history also, so it’s going to be a good bill.

The recent departure of Alan West must have hit the band hard. Under what circumstances did he leave and do you think he’ll ever return?
He left because he got his fourth DY (Drinking and Driving in America). He was arrested for the fourth time so he literally has prison time to serve. So he’s in jail right now and it did hit hard because he’s a great friend of ours, and obviously we’ve been together forever. I think for anyone following the band for the last few years, it doesn’t come as much of a surprise because they know that we’ve struggled with Alan and his drinking. So it’s sad and it sucks, but as band members we tried everything to avoid it but he couldn’t focus enough to not get himself in trouble.

Do you think he’ll return?
I’m not sure yet. Alan’s a great friend of ours and he is part of Obituary, but right now Ralph [Santolla] brings to the table an unbelievable guitar style to the line-up. The solos on the record show it did put us to another level when it comes to the respect that people will have for the song writing and the solos that fit this album. So I’m not sure about the future of Alan but right now we’re focused on this album and its promotion.

Has he provided any new ideas?
Well all he did was solos on this record. Me and Trevor [Peres (guitar)] wrote the whole album, which was already finished. We were recording it when we realised Alan was going to jail and we needed help. Ralph was a good friend of ours and an unbelievable guitar player, so we knew that it would work, but I just didn’t realise the magnitude of how good Ralph is. He really did put stuff on this album that is in my opinion unbelievable, and I’ve never heard and felt the style that Ralph has in any other guitar player. We were lucky to have Ralph do stuff on this album that fits so well with the music that we play; his style is metal but it’s almost blues-based playing and as we’re a mid-paced groovy band, the two blend together perfectly.
 
The new album, scheduled for a release next month, is called the Xecutioner’s Return. Is that a reference to the band’s original name?
Yeah. We’re happy because we were finally free from a record deal that we signed in 1986. It was a long time being on a record deal which was not very good for us...

…Roadrunner?
From Roadrunner, yes. We signed as teenagers what was probably the world’s worst record deal and there was really nothing we could have done about that but fulfil the contract, and that’s what we did with Frozen In Time. After that, we were happy to leave the record label and find a label that was happy to work for us and basically put their neck out and fight hard for sales and promotion of this band. It’s a really important thing that a record label’s there to really promote, help and look out for you
and that’s what we’re hoping for.

So what was the recording process like? Are you back into the swing of things after the hiatus?
Yeah man, this was album was cool because we did it ourselves. We literally bought a Pro-tools HD rig, turned our practise space into a studio, and we tracked all the songs on our own. Once the songs were recorded, we took them to Mark Prator, our engineer, and mixed the album with him. He did all the editing - all the cross fades, reverb - all the magic, and then we went to Morrisound Recordings and mastered it there.

The artwork on the new album shows a hellish scene depicting a monster with a bloodstained knife. What was the inspiration for this and what does it tell us about the lyrical content?
The lyrical content is still Obituary. Over the years, John has always progressed in his lyrics when it comes to having words and songs written down when compared to the first albums. Nothing that John wrote preached to the people or had lyrics that told a story or anything. John had cold sayings, slang, sentences and stuff that are gory and hellish, but it didn’t have anything to do with a type of story or anything. The artwork itself was obvious. We wanted the Xecutioner’s Return, and that’s what we told Andreas Marshall, our German artist. That’s what he came up with and we couldn’t be happier with it. It’s a really cool, beautiful piece of artwork that really matches the idea of the Xecutioner’s Return.

Will there be any lyrics this time?
No.

Why don’t you include lyrics with your albums?
John realises that he has something special. All that every band on earth knows what to do is to write songs on paper first - they consider their lyrics a ‘song’. With John, it’s all feeling and emotion. It’s almost like another instrument in the band so it’s just one of those things where it simply fit’s the music. It’s a gory, horror-type feeling but the words aren’t important - it’s the way John sings that’s important.

With this album title and the previous one, ‘Frozen In Time’, there seems to be a strong emphasis on sticking to your roots. Does this mean we know what to expect sound-wise or will there be a new direction?
I think people are happy to know that Obituary sticks to their roots. I know I’m happy with it. It’s a double-bladed sword - if you stick to your roots some kids will always say it’s the same stuff, but if all of a sudden we changed and we were Testament-sounding or Slayer-sounding, why in the world would we do that? There are already bands that sound like that. We are Obituary because we sound like Obituary. We somehow keep this style that not very many bands can emulate. They try, but with John’s vocal style and the way we write, with mid-tempo grooves, heavy Celtic Frost sounding old-school sound, that is us, and we’re happy with that. I think the important thing is that we don’t worry about changing. We realise that we have something good here and we are good at what we do, and that’s the reason why we stay with this style.

What do you think of the current metal scene with bands combining hardcore influences with metal.
I honestly don’t pay much attention to it, but what I do hear is a bit disappointing for me. Of course bands are always going to try new things and make their own style, but when you hear a band go from singing to screaming and back to singing, for me it seems a bit hesitant in saying what they are and believing what they are. I can’t really speak for any other band except for Obituary and I know that we keep our style of music that we play because we enjoy and love it. For the other bands, let them try and keep inventing new things, but sometimes a new invention doesn’t work.
 

 
It’s clear that Obituary keep up with technology. You’re constantly updating your website with the band’s whereabouts and the new single is available only on Itunes. How important is the internet and technology in keeping and gaining fans?
It’s super important. We’re an old-school band and some of us are almost intimidated a little bit. Trevor is super computer-orientated - he’s actually a graphic designer and does a lot of computer animation and all our layouts for the albums. But when it comes to us and the internet we are old-school, and we are older dudes. Our website is not the most technologically cool; there’s not going to be a flying dragon coming at you spitting flames because we made an animation but what’s important is information. We constantly update the website because it’s not how cool the website looks but how informed you are when you go to the website and how many times my brother updates the website. I think kids like to realise that ‘Man, it’s been updated daily’, so people can go to the website knowing that it’s probably going to have been updated and they can see what the band did yesterday, and still today not many bands take the time to do that.

Why did you choose Itunes as a method for people to hear the new single?
Because we realised that the internet is a huge part of promotion and marketing right now. It’s a good idea for kids who are 20 to 25 years and younger who don’t have Obituary records, and we want them to be able to invest and buy one song. We hope that after hearing one song they’ll die to hear the rest of the record. That’s why we did this. It’s a good promotional marketing plan for us to get the Metallica and Slipknot fans, fans that love Soilwork and Meshuggah, that maybe don’t have Obituary, that maybe aren’t ‘true’ old-school death metalheads. They’ll hear the single and they’ll want to go and buy the record, and if they did buy the Itunes song the record will be at a discounted price because people already paid for that song, so that’s another cool promotion.

So will we be hearing the new single or any of the new album tonight?
You will. You’ll hear two or three new songs tonight.

So otherwise a pretty classic setlist?
Yeah man, we have so many albums and so many songs that it’s hard to put setlists together because everybody wants to hear something off every album so we try to do that. It’s going to be a good show - there will be a lot of old songs but there will definitely be stuff off the new album.

And it’s a one-off show, so does this mean that you have a larger UK tour planned?
Absolutely. January and February next year it’s going to be a full European tour, with England in mind, lasting for a full seven weeks.

Thanks for your time. Do you have any last words for the readers of Live4Metal?
Yeah. New fans, we are super stoked with the idea that you are going to ‘try’ Obituary, and I know that everybody who loves any type of metal will love it. If they are intimidated with the word ‘death metal’, Obituary is not death metal in my opinion. We are a metal band but we are a band that even if you don’t care for the extreme type of metal, give this album a shot and I guarantee it’ll be one of your favourite albums. And for the old fans, you are surely gonna have to change your underwear because it is heavy, good and you’re going to be more than happy with this album. I’m a fan of my band and I think it’s by far the best album we’ve ever done. I’m confident in that, so cheers and we’ll see you next year.

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